Celeste Wallander

Caitríona Perry, BBC chief presenter in Washington, and Celeste Wallander, a former Pentagon official, delve into a surprising incident where a journalist stumbled into a top-secret military chat. They explore the implications of using secure platforms like Signal for sensitive discussions, contrasting it with traditional protocols. The conversation touches on U.S. foreign policy and ongoing conflicts affecting shipping routes, while humorously addressing communication styles, including the role of emojis in conveying messages during high-stakes scenarios.

Celeste Wallander, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs, delves into the critical dynamics of U.S. support for Ukraine. She discusses how fluctuating American aid during the Trump administration reshaped perceptions in Europe. The conversation touches on the complexities of military planning, interagency collaboration, and the evolution of nuclear deterrence amid rising tensions. Wallander emphasizes the importance of adaptable strategies and European involvement in bolstering Ukraine's defense against ongoing threats.