Cath Burns, a seasoned health correspondent, joins Matthew Trainer, chief executive of Barking, Havering and Redbridge University Hospitals Trust, to dissect a critical report on the NHS. They discuss alarming increases in waiting times and the urgent call for NHS reform. The conversation dives into the failure of current systems to support children's healthcare and the implications of rising patient numbers amidst staffing shortages. They also emphasize the need for prioritizing preventive healthcare to alleviate pressure and enhance patient outcomes.