Cat Jaffee, a radio producer and ultra-endurance mountain biker, shares her profound journey through cancer and isolation during the pandemic. Lael Wilcox, a record-breaking bikepacker, discusses her controversial race experiences and the challenges of gender and support in competitive sports. Together, they explore how bikepacking became a transformative outlet for solitude and resilience. Their candid conversations reveal the mental and emotional dynamics of endurance, highlighting the struggle and beauty of truly embracing self-reliance on the road.