William Kentridge, a renowned South African artist, and Carolyn Christov-Bakargiev, an acclaimed curator, dive into their creative bond and the Venice Biennale. They reflect on Kentridge's thought-provoking film, 'Self-Portrait as a Coffee Pot,' created during the pandemic, highlighting humor and ethical themes. The duo discusses generational shifts in art appreciation, the influence of digital culture, and the evolving role of curators in nurturing artistic expression, weaving together their experiences and philosophies in a vibrant dialogue.