William Kentridge, a pioneering artist known for his animated works, chats with renowned curator Carolyn Christov-Bakargiev. They delve into Kentridge's impactful film installation at the Venice Biennale and reflect on their close artistic partnership. The duo discusses the balance of freedom and survival in art, emphasizes the role of improvisation in creative processes, and explores how modern technology shapes contemporary art. Their engaging dialogue captures the essence of collaboration and the evolving nature of artistic expression.