Carole Cadwalladr, an award-winning journalist, voices her concerns about the sale of The Observer to Tortoise Media, warning it could lead to the downfall of The Guardian. The discussion shifts to Syria, where Ribal al-Assad provides insights on the regime's violent legacy. They explore the implications of Bashar al-Assad's absence and whether the UK should acknowledge emerging jihadi leadership. The conversation also touches on the ongoing struggle for democracy in Syria and the changing face of journalism amid organizational upheaval.

After five years, Kara Swisher signs off as the host of Recode Decode. She and her producer Eric Johnson discuss five of the best moments in the show's 539-episode history; then, she talks with Vox Media CEO Jim Bankoff about the future of Vox as the COVID-19 crisis continues and the media grapples with what it can do to unwind systemic racism; and finally, she answers questions submitted by 10 of her past guests, including Ronan Farrow, Carole Cadwalladr, Anthony Scaramucci, and Stephanie Ruhle.Thank you to all of our guests, listeners, and the dozens of people behind the scenes who have made this show possible. Starting on Monday July 6, we'll bring you hand-picked "Best of Recode Decode" episodes for the rest of the summer. After that, stay subscribed for something new on this feed from Vox Media.Featuring:Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), Recode Decode senior producerJim Bankoff (@Bankoff), Vox Media CEOMore to explore:On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media.On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next.And on Season 1 of Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon — and now, on Season 2, Peter Kafka and Rani Molla are examining "the Netflix effect."About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: Recode DailyTwitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices