Dr. Carol Atack, Director of Studies in Classics at Newham College, dives deep into Plato's views on tyranny and governance. She explores how Plato's insights resonate with today's political climate, reflecting on the influence of contemporary leaders. The conversation highlights the historical context of fourth-century Greece, critiques democracy, and examines the interplay between tyranny and societal well-being. Atack also discusses Socratic ideas on justice and the legacy of Plato, showcasing his enduring relevance in modern political thought.