Carla Javier, a supervising producer at Explain It To Me, teams up with Justin Oberman, one of TSA's first employees, to unravel the ongoing saga of the REAL ID Act. They delve into the cultural implications and logistical hurdles of its delayed implementation, exploring how airport security has evolved post-9/11. The conversation touches on public resistance regarding civil liberties, the influence of the COVID-19 pandemic, and what the future might hold as the new enforcement deadline approaches.