Joining the discussion are Ernie Tedeschi, Director of Economics at the Yale Budget Lab and former White House Chief Economist, and Carl Shevik, CEO of mattress companies Earthfoam and Sleep on Latex. They delve into how tariffs, especially on imports from China, create market instability for small businesses. Personal stories reveal the challenges faced by entrepreneurs, particularly those relying on imported goods. The conversation also uncovers the uncertainties of navigating global supply chains and the impact on consumer costs.