In this lively discussion, Carin Meier, author of Living Clojure and a math and physics enthusiast, shares her journey from ballet to coding. She dives into the vibrant Clojure community, discussing its interoperability with Java and applications in large organizations. Carin introduces the fascinating concept of chemical programming, blending computer science with biology. The conversation wraps up with insights on mastering Clojure, reflecting on the importance of patience and practice, and exploring the playful side of coding.