Camille Leak, a DEI practitioner known for her relational approach to diversity, equity, and inclusion, joins the conversation to explore the nuances of these critical concepts. She shares her personal experiences with marginalization and critiques traditional DEI practices for sidestepping uncomfortable discussions. Camille distinguishes microaggressions from bias, emphasizing the importance of empathy and genuine dialogue to improve relationships. She advocates for personalized engagement and trauma-informed approaches, urging listeners to confront privilege and discomfort.