Jay Bhattacharya, a Stanford professor and former NIH director, alongside Camila Naksarova, a Harvard Medical School researcher, dive into the turmoil caused by frozen federal grants impacting vital research. They explore the dramatic conflict between Bhattacharya and Harvard's president, Alan Garber, who was once his mentor. Conversations reveal how COVID-19 reshaped their careers, the controversial Great Barrington Declaration, and the dire consequences for academia's future, urging a reevaluation of funding priorities and the implications for scientific progress.
