Natasha Loader, Health policy editor at The Economist, and Callum Williams, Senior economics writer at The Economist, delve into the contentious lab-leak theory of SARS-CoV-2's origins, examining fresh evidence and political ramifications. They discuss the grim economic impacts of strict COVID-19 lockdowns in Latin America, revealing severe GDP declines and contrasting recovery efforts with wealthier nations. The conversation also touches on innovative shark breeding techniques, aiming to boost genetic diversity in threatened populations.

Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor-at-large at The Economist, and Callum Williams, Senior economics writer, tackle urgent topics today. They dive into the rise of universal jurisdiction trials, highlighting a pivotal German case against a Syrian war criminal. With a focus on human rights justice, they discuss how international law seeks to hold violators accountable. On the economic front, they also analyze the lesser impact of recent lockdowns on global economies and the struggles Cambodian rat-catchers face in adapting to changing market conditions.