Callie Klebanoff

In this engaging discussion, expert therapist Callie Klebanoff—formerly the executive director of the Pain Psychology Center—teams up with John Gasienica to tackle chronic pain and the mental strain it brings, especially for new mothers. They explore how rumination exacerbates pain by keeping the nervous system in hyper-alert mode. Practical strategies to break the cycle of overthinking are emphasized, along with a real-time therapy session that showcases methods to calm the mind and foster self-compassion in managing discomfort.