Special guest Ken Kocienda, author of Creative Selection, joins the show to talk about his years at Apple and the creation of the original iPhone. Sponsored by: Remote: Global HR Solutions for distributed teams. Retool: Build internal tools 10× faster. Squarespace: Make your next move. Use code talkshow for 10% off your first order. Links: Up Spell — Ken’s iOS word game. “Wallaby” iPhone prototype hardware. Steve Jobs’s quote on the wall outside Town Hall at Infinite Loop: “If you do something and it turns out pretty good, then you should go do something else wonderful, not dwell on for it too long. Just figure out what’s next.” Kim Scott’s books: Radical Candor and Just Work. DF’s 15-year anniversary post, with word counts. Stephen King’s On Writing. Andy Hertzfeld’s history of the original Mac: Folklore.org Revolution in the Valley Humane — The totally secret startup where Ken is now working. Job openings at Humane. This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.