Caitlin Dickerson, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist known for her groundbreaking work on migration, joins Tonya Mosley to discuss the hazardous Darién Gap. They delve into the harrowing experiences of nearly half a million migrants facing treacherous conditions like snakes and violence. Dickerson shares gripping stories of families, especially vulnerable women and children, navigating these perils. The conversation highlights the emotional toll of migration and the deceptive smuggling operations that exacerbate their plight, painting a vivid picture of resilience amid danger.

Caitlin Dickerson, a staff writer for The Atlantic, and Lynsey Addario, an acclaimed photographer, delve into the harrowing journey through the Darién Gap. They recount the physical and emotional trials faced by families, including a poignant story of a mother coping with loss. The duo highlights how dangerous migration routes are exacerbated by U.S. immigration policies and cartels exploiting the vulnerable. Their firsthand experiences paint a vivid picture of desperation, revealing the diverse backgrounds of those fleeing persecution.

Caitlin Dickerson, an immigration reporter for The Times, says there is one word that sums up the Trump administration’s approach to border crossing: deterrence. For nearly four years, the U.S. government has tried to discourage migrants, with reinforced walls, family separation policies and threats of deportation.Those policies have led to the appearance of a makeshift asylum-seeker camp of frayed tents and filthy conditions within walking distance of the United States.Today, we ask: What will the legacy of President Trump’s immigration policies be? And will anything change next year?Guest: Caitlin Dickerson, an immigration reporter for The New York Times.For an exclusive look at how the biggest stories on our show come together, subscribe to our newsletter. Read the latest edition here.Background reading: This is what we saw inside the tent camp on the U.S.-Mexico border.The Trump administration’s immigration policies have not deterred pregnant women from trying to enter the United States. Here are some of their experiences.A federal judge last week ordered the Trump administration to fully restore the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program designed to shield young, undocumented immigrants from deportation.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.