Bryce Case Jr., known as YTCracker, is a hacker turned cybersecurity expert and musician, while Ryan Montgomery is a cybersecurity entrepreneur. They dive into Bryce’s fascinating journey from early hacking exploits, including defacing government sites, to becoming a leading voice in cybersecurity. The duo discusses the culture of early AOL hacking, the rise of digital communities like Digital Gangster, and the ethical implications of hacking tools. They also explore mental health in relation to hacking, as well as the evolving landscape of digital security threats.