Bruce Maccabee, an optical physicist and UFO researcher, sheds light on the FBI's secretive UFO investigations. He discusses how he accessed UAP files via the Freedom of Information Act, revealing a treasure trove of historical data. The conversation dives into the potential impact of recent FBI personnel changes and the implications for public curiosity about UFOs. Maccabee also connects past incidents, like the Roswell affair, to current societal fascination, urging a blend of scientific skepticism and openness in the dialogue around extraterrestrial phenomena.