In this discussion, guest Brian Patterson, Head of the Ontario Safety League, highlights the troubling corruption in driving schools that compromises road safety. He emphasizes the dire need for proper training and independent oversight to improve driver qualifications. The conversation then shifts to the ongoing California wildfires, detailing containment efforts and the emotional toll on local communities. Finally, a light-hearted debate ensues on the cultural significance of bagels, contrasting styles from Montreal and New York, blending serious issues with humor.