Join Marcel Kuijsten, Founder of the Julian Jaynes Society, and Brian McVeigh, a Senior Researcher and former student of Jaynes, as they dive into the origins of consciousness. They discuss how ancient humans experienced auditory hallucinations as divine commands, shaping societal structures. The conversation also touches on the evolution of consciousness linked to language and the transformation from bicameral to self-aware thought. Tune in for insights on the interplay between spirituality, psychology, and the development of human cognition!