Aaron Erickson and Brian Guthrie, co-founders of Orgspace and former engineering leaders at big companies, share their experience and advice on pre-seed fundraising, pitching investors, dealing with rejection, finding a co-founder, and making the decision to leave their engineering leadership positions. They also discuss the challenges of building an organization, recommended books for startup leaders, maintaining relationships in the founder community, strategies for diffusing stress, and reflections on their journey.