Brian Coates, former Vice President of Bre-X, sheds light on the company's chaotic response to the scandal, revealing a web of lies and deception. Andrew Neal, a geologist from Freeport, discusses the shocking discovery of gold sample tampering, which triggered a financial catastrophe. As investors face devastating losses, they explore the grave implications for pension funds and the ethical dilemmas within the mining industry. The conversation reveals the dark side of ambition and the critical need for trust in corporate practices.