Bria Sullivan, a developer and founder of Honey B Games, joins the conversation to discuss the remarkable rise of Focus Friend, the engaging productivity app she co-created with Hank Green. She reveals how a dinner talk sparked its development, transforming a simple focus timer into an interactive gaming experience. Bria dives into the importance of user feedback and empathy in design, sharing insights on creating ethical gaming that promotes well-being. Plus, she candidly reflects on the challenges of balancing app development with parenthood.