Brett St Louis and Arun Kundnani discuss C. L. R. James, a figure in decolonial, Marxist, and pan-African thought. They delve into James' perspectives on revolution, the implications of the Haitian Revolution, challenges of governing the working class, internationalism and pan-Africanism, connections between violence, racialization, and imperialism, and the impact of 'Black Jacobins' in challenging traditional history.