Robert Weissman, Co-president of Public Citizen, and Brendan Fisher, Deputy Executive Director at Documented, share insights on pressing political issues. They discuss the complex fallout from Trump-era immigration policies, including impacts on Afghan refugees. The conversation highlights the controversial Department of Government Efficiency led by Elon Musk and the troubling influence of wealth in politics. They also touch upon the historical ties between Silicon Valley and right-wing politics, emphasizing the growing concerns around a tech industrial complex.