Marcia Howard, president of the Minneapolis Federation of Educators, and Brandt Williams, a senior editor at MPR News, delve into the profound impact of George Floyd's murder five years later. They discuss the ongoing struggle for police reform, highlighting promises unfulfilled by city leaders. Howard emphasizes the crucial role of educators in activism, while both guests reflect on the transformation of George Floyd Square into a symbol of justice. The complexities surrounding community safety and urban infrastructure are also examined, underscoring the continuing fight against systemic oppression.