In a riveting conversation, author Bram Gieben delves into apocalyptic narratives and their hidden truths about our current dystopia. He candidly discusses how these stories shape our perceptions of climate change, urging a more nuanced understanding of our fragile ecological systems. The dialogue shifts to pressing issues like water scarcity, highlighting the consequences of historical decisions. Gieben also critiques the resurgence of transhumanism and its implications, calling for a critical examination of progress in an increasingly complex world.