Showrunners David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, and Alexander Woo discuss Saul becoming a Wallfacer and future character paths. NASA engineer Bobak Ferdowsi explains logistics of the Staircase Project. Podcast delves into spacecraft weight challenges, quantum technology interference, emotional character arcs, and actor comparisons.

Bobak Ferdowsi, NASA engineer and overnight celebrity, discusses his career, challenges during Mars Curiosity rover's deployment, and his current mission with Nyser to develop a synthetic aperture radar. The podcast also explores the impact of space exploration and the hope it brings for technological advancements.