In a poignant discussion, Aimee Welch, a former journalist and adoptive parent, shares her firsthand experience with the halt of Chinese international adoptions, highlighting the emotional toll on families awaiting their children. Bob Smietana, a national reporter for Religion News Service, dives into the complexities of maintaining friendships across political divides, citing Taylor Swift as a relatable example. The conversation further explores the intersection of humanitarian issues, political debates, and the challenge of connecting in today's polarized climate.

Bob Smietana, columnist for Religion News Service, discusses unintended consequences of the Church Growth Movement with Karl Vaters. They talk about dangers of bigness, the homogenization of worship songs, and the need for diversity in church culture. Smietana's insights shed light on reshaping American churches and addressing declining youth attendance.