Bob Roby and Matt Sharp, both attorneys with expertise in legal and ethical issues, dive into Minnesota's controversial 'trans refuge' bill. They examine how the legislation affects parental rights and could label non-affirming parents as 'abusive.' The conversation highlights the potential for undermining parental authority and the implications for minors seeking gender-affirming care. They also discuss the need for transparency in legislation and the evolving challenges surrounding gender ideology, urging families to stay informed.