Bob Martin, a renowned software engineer and author, delves into the history of computing and the influential figures that shaped it, including Margaret Hamilton and Linus Torvalds. He shares insights from his new book and reflects on his journey as a self-taught developer in the 70s. The conversation takes a twist with a fascinating project showcasing Doom built with TypeScript. Alongside tech history, they recommend classic sci-fi novels and TV shows, including an engaging comparison of 'The Expanse' books versus its series.