Jordan Peterson and Bishop Barron explore new technologies in religion, self-deification fallacy, flow of grace, and transitioning to peace and love. Bishop Barron's influential work, media presence, and social media following are highlighted. They discuss defining God, divine presence, humility, surrender, resilience, sacrifice, and the pursuit of spiritual transformation.

Most listeners would need no introduction to Bishop Robert Barron. He is the Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the Catholic Church. He's also an author, speaker, theologian, and founder of Word on Fire, a global media ministry. I finally had the opportunity to talk with him in the wake of the recent "Four Horsemen of Meaning" discussion published on Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel (linked below). We discuss the Bible, beauty, art, how Christianity can exist in contemporary culture, and the problems of atheism, iconoclasm, social justice, ethics, addiction and the critical historical approach to religion. - The Four Horsemen of Meaning discussion with Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke and Jonathan Pageau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvQsqSCWjA Bishop Barron's work: - Word on Fire website: https://www.wordonfire.org/ - Bishop Barron YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideo ====================== Original video: https://youtu.be/BR3br53d2x0 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

Bishop Barron reflects on the church's enduring presence in society, the transformative power of Christianity, the concept of sumun bonum and love in theology, the importance of praising God and embracing righteousness, and the significance of the Paschal Mystery and the power of resurrection.

For Ep 14, we present Dr. Peterson's highly anticipated conversation with Bishop Barron.

Explore the profound lessons from the book of Jonah in the Bible, including the symbolism of Jonah's storm and fish. Reflect on the significance of Jesus' timely arrival and how it impacted the world. Discover new resources on Jonah and hear a listener's thought-provoking question on Jesus showing up when he did.

This episode was recorded on September 10th 2021.Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke, and Jonathan Pageau have a round table to explore ideas and theories of Meaning. All three guests have been on the podcast before, and all share Jordan’s passion for the universal truths of human experience. This deep discussion explores the roots of Meaning and religious significance.Bishop Barron is the founder of Word on Fire and the auxiliary bishop of the archdiocese of LA.John Vervaeke is a colleague of Jordan’s and an associate professor at the University of Toronto since 1994. He teaches courses on reasoning, cognitive development, and higher cognitive processes.Jonathan Pageau is a symbolic thinker, YouTuber, and class carver of orthodox icons.-Find more Bishop Barron on YouTube: https://youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideoAnd here: https://wordonfire.org/Find more John Vervaeke online on his website: http://johnvervaeke.comJohn's YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCpqDUjTsof-kTNpnyWper_QFind more Jonathan Pageau on YouTube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ Jonathan's website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com_________[00:00] Preview[01:30] Intro[02:40] Everyone gives their answer to “What is meaning?”[03:30] “We're using meaning as a metaphor... something similar to the way a sentence works. It has intelligibility to it that connects us to the world... so that we can interact and be informed by it” Jon Vervaeke[07:22] “Our mental framing is transparent like a pair of glasses, but there are times we need to step back and, by taking the glasses off and examining them, consider our framing structure" JV[09:10] “When you look at the world there is a central point of focus. When you focus on the point with your eyes it becomes very clear... until we no longer perceive anything by the edge of our vision. It's nothingness, it's just not there" Jordan Peterson[13:56] Bishop Barron's view on meaning and religion[14:23] “I would say that meaning is to be in a purposeful relationship to a value" Bishop Robert Barron[17:55] “So I'm talking to you, which I believe is a good, but it's nested in a higher good and a still higher good, so finally I want not just this particular good but good itself—that's a religious relationship" BRB[18:20] Pageau’s opening thoughts on meaning and religion[19:56] “The reason we perceive hierarchy is because we are always judging... or trying to evaluate whether something’s good" Pageau[20:31] Jordan’s brief foray into “mini-celebrations”[21:53] The idea of revelation[24:46] “It isn't obvious to me that we see objects—we see patterns" JP[27:40] “Like a Rolling Stone—it wasn't the first song I liked, but it was the first that rocked my world and rearranged my mind, and I think that's where real value is" BRB[28:42] Underlying causes of the crisis of meaning[30:10] “Something that starts with Scotus... and goes into the heart of the scientific revolution is that there’s no such thing as levels—reality just is" JV[31:00] Science around the hierarchy of intelligibility and connectedness[33:00] What is science?[39:00] “There’s an epistemic hierarchy and science does not belong on the top" BRB[42:00] “As scientists, we are motivated by a narrative we don't understand scientifically… The whole enterprise is driven by a dream whose reality can't be encapsulated within the process itself" JP[44:00] The ignorance in assuming science OR religion are correct[44:40] Eminationist ontologies[55:30] Religious experiences[01:07:30] The book of Revelations as a psychedelic experience.[01:17:30] The Psychedelic problem and why psychedelics are useful in communal experiences.[01:26:00] Jordan’s biblical lectures[01:32:00] What are the guests working on?[01:36:00] Beauty in churches[01:38:00] Growing up Christian[01:44:00] Possibility is real[01:50:00] Joining religion and science[02:03:30] Wrapping up#Meaning #Psychology #Religion

Bishop Robert Barron and I sat down on March 5th, 2021 to discuss a variety of topics in the realm of the importance of the bible, the bridge between religion and biology, the nature of good, how the limits of the bible can be useful, why young people are leaving the catholic church, the hunger for serious deep conversation on religious topics done intellectually, and more. Bishop Barron is the founder of Word on Fire catholic ministries and auxiliary bishop of the archdiocese of Los Angeles. He is also a number one Amazon best-selling author and has published a number of books on theology and spiritual life. He has been invited to speak about religion at the headquarters of Facebook, Google, and Amazon and is one of the most followed Catholics of the world on social media.Find more of Bishop Barron on YouTube @Bishop Robert Barron and on https://www.wordonfire.org/

Friends, today we share a conversation I had with leaders at Biola University on proclaiming and encountering Christ. It was wonderful to sit down with our Protestant brothers and sisters to discuss the importance of evangelization in today’s culture. In this discussion, we explore how to evangelize through the new media, reach the disaffiliated, prepare to become an evangelist, and much more. Links Story of a Soul by St. Thérèse of Lisieux (WOF Classics)

Bishop Barron, renowned for his engaging teachings and founder of Word on Fire, shares his impactful homily from the 2024 National Eucharistic Congress. He emphasizes the deep personal significance of the Eucharist, recalling transformative moments from his childhood and college years. Bishop Barron explores the intersection of liturgy and social justice, advocating for a unified faith in action. He also highlights the vital role of daily prayer in igniting spiritual energy, urging listeners to embrace the transformative power of the Eucharist in their lives.