In this engaging discussion, C. Baxter Kruger, a theologian known for his insights on union with Christ, and Bill Winn, a pastor and storyteller, challenge the sacred-secular divide that limits our understanding of faith. They share humorous anecdotes that connect everyday experiences, like car repairs, to the divine. The duo explores the transformative impact of recognizing our union with Jesus, emphasizing that this connection precedes faith and fosters peace, even amid struggles. Their reflections highlight the intrinsic sacredness of all aspects of life.