Crofton Black, an investigative journalist at Lighthouse Reports, discusses the extensive spyware investigation focusing on the new mercenary tool, Predator. Joined by Bill Marczak and John Scott-Railton from Citizen Lab, they delve into how Predator infects mobile phones to collect sensitive data and its alarming sale to global intelligence agencies. The conversation highlights ethical implications, the urgent need for regulatory oversight, and the chilling reality of technology being weaponized against civil liberties.