Bill Hayton, an expert on geopolitics at Chatham House, and Chris Sanders, animation legend and director of The Wild Robot, dive into the nuances of U.S.-Israeli relations during a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. They explore the stark contrasts between public and private diplomacy, shedding light on political implications ahead of elections. The duo also reflects on the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation's effectiveness and discusses the importance of climate education in universities, emphasizing the evolving role of animation in storytelling.