Dimitri Sevastopoulou, a U.S.-China correspondent for the Financial Times, and Bill Bishop, writer of the Cynicism newsletter, dive into China's strategic positioning in the ongoing trade war. They discuss China's assertiveness and the implications for U.S.-China relations. The conversation touches on how China's narrative emphasizes resilience against external pressures, its reduced dependency on the U.S., and its ambitions in high-tech sectors. They also explore the chaos of tariff announcements and the resulting effects on global supply chains.