Bharat Ramamurti, former Deputy Director of the National Economic Council under Biden, shares insights on key topics. He discusses the political implications of high voter turnout in Wisconsin and its effects on democracy. The conversation also delves into 'Liberation Day' and its economic impact, along with a critical look at tariff policies and their efficacy for U.S. manufacturing. Additionally, they tackle the controversial death penalty case of Luigi Mangioni and explore the complexities of immigration, all while maintaining a lively and engaging tone.