Kieran McAnulty, a key voice in housing affordability, joins experts Sean Sweeney, Benedict Collins, and Hugh White to tackle pressing real estate issues. They dive into the burden of rising rates on homeowners and explore the effectiveness of government reforms. The conversation highlights the Kainoaara initiative's shortcomings and stresses the importance of aligning local governance with citizens' needs. Additionally, they discuss the complexities of construction cost management and the implications of New Zealand's potential role in the AUKUS alliance.