In this engaging discussion, Professor Ben Nathans, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, shares insights on the Soviet dissident movement, highlighting the power of humor as a resistance tool. Ian Johnson, who explores the Chinese dissident ecosystem, connects these insights to contemporary China. They delve into the parallels between post-Stalinist and post-Maoist regimes and the unique challenges faced by activists. The duo also discusses the role of dark humor and the evolution of justice in oppressive states, revealing the lasting impacts of these historical movements.
