Ben Holden, a multi-talented guest, joins John Vervaeke to discuss the fascinating domains of naming magic, perception, and the cosmos. They explore the tension between objects' 'moreness' and 'suchness', the Buddhist notion of unique essence, and the mysterious realms of naming and representation. The conversation also touches on the psychological underpinnings of contemporary struggles with meaning and anxiety, and the implications of a sentient cosmos. Get ready for an intellectual feast that stretches your mind and tugs at your curiosity.