Ben Clatworthy, Whitehall editor at The Times, and Fraser Nelson, Times columnist, dive into the UK Home Secretary's recent sweeping asylum reforms, the most significant since WWII. They dissect Denmark's strict asylum policies that inspired these changes, weighing their necessity against criticisms labeling them 'repugnant.' Discussion includes the introduction of temporary refugee status, tightened family rights, and controversial asset recovery plans. The duo debates whether these measures signify a permanent shift in European leftist policies toward tougher immigration stances.