

Barry Eisler
Former CIA covert operations officer turned bestselling thriller novelist whose books (including The System) and political views drive the episode's conversation about power, narrative, and storytelling.
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Oct 1, 2025 • 60min
From CIA Secrets to Bestsellers: Barry Eisler on Writing What’s Real
Barry Eisler, a former CIA covert operations officer turned bestselling thriller novelist, shares his insights on blending truth with fiction in storytelling. He discusses the inspiration behind his latest novel, The System, exploring themes of power and compromise in Washington. Eisler elaborates on his research methods, which include personal experience and expert interviews, ensuring authenticity in his writing. He also critiques political communication strategies and proposes innovative solutions, such as universal basic income, to reshape economic narratives.

Jul 24, 2025 • 1h 7min
What “The System” Really Means in American Politics (w/ Barry Eisler)
Barry Eisler, a former CIA agent and bestselling novelist, dives into the machinations of power in Washington, elaborating on themes from his new book, 'The System.' He reveals how politicians navigate the duopoly and examines the illusion of partisanship. The conversation explores how language and euphemisms shape perceptions of violence and morality, questioning whether the American narrative truly reflects its values. Eisler also touches on the ethical dilemmas in storytelling, highlighting the blurred lines between good and evil in contemporary society.