Barack Obama, former President of the United States and community organizer, delves into the spiritual challenges faced by leaders in a polarized society. He discusses the weight of moral choices in politics, touching on issues like late-term abortion and the Trayvon Martin case. The conversation explores transparency in government, the complexities of Russiagate, and the dynamics of race and authority. Obama emphasizes the need for constructive dialogue and a deeper understanding amidst societal divides, calling for unity in facing current controversies.

Stevie Wonder, a legendary musician and songwriter known for his transformative music, joins former President Barack Obama, who has a deep admiration for his work. Together, they dive into the power of love songs and their role in the black American experience, highlighting how music transcends political themes. The discussion also touches on personal stories of joy and pain in songwriting, the importance of optimism, and the hope that music brings to humanity. With Stevie’s keyboard in tow, the conversation is both heartfelt and inspiring.