Barath Raghavan, a cybersecurity expert, and Bruce Schneier, a leading authority on security tech, dive into the complexities of cyber threats. They discuss South Korea's military intelligence leak to North Korea and the increasing threat landscape. The conversation highlights the importance of building resilience in IT infrastructures through strategic failures. They also explore the convergence of cyber and physical security, emphasizing AI's transformative role in safeguarding critical infrastructure against sophisticated cyber attacks.