Bahaa Zidan believes web frameworks are irrelevant, DHH talks about magic machines, Dylan Huang reviews the use of HTMX, Tim Ottinger emphasizes the importance of thinking in programming, and Tim Spann advocates for small language models.

Guests Bahaa Zidan, Dylan Huang, Tim Ottinger, and Tim Spann discuss why your web framework doesn’t matter, reviews of HTMX, the importance of thinking in programming, and advocating for small language models (SLM) in this entertaining podcast.

Guests discuss why your web framework doesn't matter, programming as a thinking process, the value of small language models, and exploring diverse perspectives on HTMX and DevOps tools in the tech sector.