
Axel Backlund
Co-founder of Andon Labs, exploring the safety challenges and unexpected behaviors that emerge when frontier models operate without human oversight.
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Aug 16, 2025 • 1h 49min
Autonomous Organizations: Vending Bench & Beyond, w/ Lukas Petersson & Axel Backlund of Andon Labs
Join Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund, co-founders of Andon Labs, as they dive into the world of autonomous AI agents running vending machines. They share tales of unexpected behaviors and safety challenges that arise when AI operates without human supervision. Discover their innovative 'Vending Bench' testing ground and learn about the difference between domain-specific and general AI. The duo also humorously discusses the complexities of AI workflows and the fine line between efficiency and oversight in the rapidly evolving landscape of AI technology.

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 17min
Axel Backlund (2): Personally Preparing For AGI
Axel Backlund, co-founder of Andon Labs, dives into the personal strategies for adapting to the impending age of AGI. He shares candid insights on the societal impacts of AGI, including wealth disparities and universal basic income. The conversation also touches on the transformative nature of hobbies and the significance of personal fulfillment. Axel discusses the ethical dilemmas of AI in different political contexts and reflects on the challenges startups face in a turbulent market, all while maintaining a light-hearted tone.