Austin Ivory, a biographer and close friend of Marian Machiri, shares insights from the Vatican's first conclave vote that ended in black smoke, signaling a lack of consensus among the 133 cardinals. They discuss the potential candidates for papacy, including Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagli, and reflect on the Catholic Church's evolving role in the Philippines. The conversation also touches on pressing global issues, from the geopolitical tensions between India and Pakistan to the challenges faced by urban religious institutions amid crises.
