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Ashley Hamer
Managing editor at Curiosity.com and musician who writes about audio topics; speaks about perception, pareidolia, and the distinctions between intentional and accidental backmasking.
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Nov 18, 2025
• 29min
Presenting: Twenty Thousand Hertz
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Join audio historian Brian Gardner, who has explored backmasking's roots, and Ashley Hamer, managing editor at Curiosity.com and musician, as they dive into the eerie world of hidden messages in music. They discuss infamous cases like the Judas Priest trial, the cultural panic of the '80s, and how our brains perceive accidental messages through pareidolia. From historical context to modern examples, they reveal the playful ways artists use backmasking today and debunk myths about its true influence on behavior.
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