In this engaging discussion, Ashley Fraser, a BYU professor focusing on hope and marginalized communities, joins the hosts to explore the profound concepts of unity and belonging. They delve into the importance of valuing differences and fostering inclusive communities. Fraser emphasizes cultural humility and the need for collaboration in building 'Zion.' The conversation also tackles the biases of in-groups versus out-groups and the transformative power of hope in creating peaceful connections. Together, they envision a richer, more harmonious society.