Arthur Desmond, a New Zealand author with a controversial past, discusses his journey from labor activist to far-right figure. He reflects on his provocative book, 'Hard Cash,' which critiques mainstream media and traditional values, attracting extremists. The conversation reveals Desmond's complex duality, exploring his passionate beginnings in Māori rights alongside his troubling later views. They also examine the lasting impact of his work, particularly 'Might is Right,' and how it resonates with today's political landscape.
