Thomas Crooks, known for his assassination attempt on a presidential candidate, joins Arthur Bremer, infamous for targeting Richard Nixon's opponents in 1972. They discuss the chaotic motivations behind political violence, highlighting how some shooters seek notoriety rather than clear political goals. The conversation dives into Bremer's unsettling diary, revealing his troubled psyche and a desire for fame. They also reflect on the chilling implications of violence at political rallies and the societal impact of individual actions in shaping public discourse.